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pemberhentian dengan tidak hormat

English translation: dishonourable discharge

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
Indonesian term or phrase:pemberhentian dengan tidak hormat
English translation:dishonourable discharge
Entered by: Agustinus

04:59 Oct 5, 2011
Indonesian to English translations [PRO]
Law (general)
Indonesian term or phrase: pemberhentian dengan tidak hormat
surat pemberhentian dengan tidak hormat.
Agustinus
Indonesia
Local time: 05:43
dishonourable discharge
Explanation:
This is the expression used in the military.

In civilian employment the expression 'dismissal' is more common, for example: dismissal on the grounds of serious misconduct.
Selected response from:

John Gare (X)
Local time: 08:43
Grading comment
thank you john gare and friends :)
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3dishonourable discharge
John Gare (X)
4 +2dishonorable termination
Catherine Muir
4dismissal without honors
Rona Desfy P., SS
3dishonorable discharge letter
Hikmat Gumilar
3dismissal letter for gross misconduct
Monica Arifin


Discussion entries: 2





  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
dishonorable discharge letter


Explanation:
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Hikmat Gumilar
Indonesia
Local time: 05:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian, Native in SundaneseSundanese
PRO pts in category: 86
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
dishonourable discharge


Explanation:
This is the expression used in the military.

In civilian employment the expression 'dismissal' is more common, for example: dismissal on the grounds of serious misconduct.

John Gare (X)
Local time: 08:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 96
Grading comment
thank you john gare and friends :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Edward Thornton
3 mins
agree  Catherine Muir: Agree totally with the distinction made by Pak John; depends on whether it is a military or a civilian context.
4 mins
agree  Arfan Achyar
3 days 21 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
dismissal letter for gross misconduct


Explanation:
Employee dismissal letter for gross misconduct:

Sometimes the company has to take the unfortunate decision of the dismissal of an employee on account of the gross misconduct of the employee. This is indeed a grave reason for the dismissal of the concerned employee. Each company works on its own policies and the gross misconduct of an employee comes in the violation of the company policies and thus the company has every right to terminate the employee.

In a dismissal letter, the sender is supposed to mention the reasons for termination in detail. The reasons will vary from situation to situation as per the company policies.

http://www.bestsampleresume.com/letters/employee-dismissal-l...

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Note added at 4 hrs (2011-10-05 09:38:04 GMT)
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I think I should write the answer as "dismissal for gross misconduct", (without "letter" between "dismissal" and "for")

Monica Arifin
Indonesia
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
dismissal without honors


Explanation:
www.bilaboong.com/.../lowongan-kerja-bumn-ptpn-vii-persero.html


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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-10-05 12:45:26 GMT)
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This is for civilian context

Rona Desfy P., SS
Indonesia
Local time: 05:43
Works in field
Native speaker of: Indonesian
PRO pts in category: 11
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
dishonorable termination


Explanation:
See web reference below. Sriro's Desk Reference of Indonesian Law, p. 247, refers to both 'Honorable Termination' and 'Dishonorable Termination'. The 'surat...' would be the 'notice' of dishonorable termination'.

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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2011-10-06 07:47:02 GMT)
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Based on asker's clarification (see Discussion), this is the most appropriate translation, IMHO.

Example sentence(s):
  • "Dishonorable Termination: Notaries will be dishonorably terminated from their posts by Minister...

    Reference: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=P0WrciF6BOcC&pg=PA241&lp...
Catherine Muir
Australia
Local time: 08:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 53

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Little
10 hrs
agree  ErichEko ⟹⭐
1 day 1 hr
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