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normo-tachykard
Jul 10, 2014 21:07
9 yrs ago
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German term

Oberstufenrealgymasium

German to English Social Sciences Education / Pedagogy
If you wanted your to use your school leaving certificate in the US, how would you translate ? Would you put it as something like Federal Senior Grammar School, even if they do not have grammar schools in the US? Any help much appreciated!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 academic secondary school
3 secondary grammar-school
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Jul 10, 2014 23:57: Lancashireman changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

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PRO (3): Kim Metzger, David Hollywood, Lancashireman

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Discussion

Hans-Jochen Trost Jul 11, 2014:
A "Gymnasium" is a High School ... not a college. You graduate at the age of about 18-19 with a qualification (partial as it may be due to admission exams) to go on attending college or University. A Gymnasium is a secondary school, a college, including junior college, in the U.S. is a post-secondary school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_college#United_States
gangels (X) Jul 11, 2014:
US vernacular In essence, the 'leaving certificate' is your proof of graduation, i.e., after passing the 'finals' as 'senior' (Abschlussprüfung), you have earned a 'college diploma', 'majoring' (i.e specializing) in math and science (as was pointed out, a 'Realgymnasium' emphasizes the natural sciences).
Would be helpful to see the term as part of the full sentence. So, simply put, "senior technical college" would come closest (in the US, we have 'junior college' and 'college' proper, which by implication stands for senior).
Hans-Jochen Trost Jul 11, 2014:
Senior High School ... would come fairly close. The original term is Austrian, so check out these Wikipedia entries:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildungssystem_in_Österreich#Se...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberstufenrealgymnasium
Lancashireman Jul 10, 2014:
On second thoughts... How about 'Senior Federal Fifth Grade State High School'?
Lancashireman Jul 10, 2014:
Thank you for specifying the target readership So many previous ‘Pedagogy’ questions have produced perfectly valid yet incompatible parallel answers.

Proposed translations

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academic secondary school

1. A Realgymnasium is a secondary school with a focus on math and science. http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/education_pedago...
2. An Oberstufengymnasium is the gymnasiale Oberstufe, i.e. the top three grades of secondary school: 11th, 12th and 13th.
3. We do have grammar schools in the US, but they are primary schools.
4. I usually translate Gymnasium as academic secondary school and I think that's how I'd translate your term, leaving out all the specifics.
Peer comment(s):
agree David Hollywood
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Kim, I went for this in the end. "
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secondary grammar-school

There are no exact equivalents between the British/American/German school systems, so this is just a guess.
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