English term
Morocco
A Ph.D. at your service!
Native in: English (Variants: UK, US) 
, Arabic (Variant: Moroccan) , French (Variants: African, Standard-France, Moroccan)
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, French to Arabic, and 14 more.
completed some work
Aug 13, 2020 10:24: Cyril Tollari changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Non-PRO (3): Barbara Carrara, Tony M, Cyril Tollari
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Proposed translations
Canada
Traducteur anglais/espagnol au français
Native in: French (Variants: Standard-France, Canadian)
Works in: Spanish to French, English to French, French to Spanish, and 1 more.
a effectué un (du) travail
Il n’y a qu’une acception où les deux mots peuvent signifier la même chose : lorsque « complete » signifie « to provide (someone or something) with something necessary to make it entire or finished — to complete a puzzle. » Exemple tiré du dictionnaire Antidote 10
L’autre petite difficulté pour nous francophones est « around », qui souvent a le sens d’autour, mais qui parfois prend le sens de « about », comme dans ce cas-ci.
Donc,
[La personne qui s'occupe de] la famille d'accueil a effectué un travail avec elle sur la question du vol.
ou
[La personne qui s'occupe de] la famille d'accueil a effectué un travail avec elle à propos du fait de voler.
ou encore,
[La personne qui s'occupe de] la famille d'accueil a travaillé avec elle sur la question du vol.
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Cathy Rosamond
: Je préfère "un":)
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Merci Cathy! Moi aussi je préfère "un" :-)
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Tony M
: Exactly the point I have been trying to make from the beginning; do be wary, though, of not weakening the sense of 'some'...
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Thanks Tony! Please see my comment above in "Discussion".
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France
Here for you in linguistic challenges !
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France) 
Works in: English to French, Tagalog to French, Latin to French, and 3 more.
A achevé une partie du travail
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François Tardif
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Merci François !
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Tony M
: Over-translation really; there is no sense of 'finished' here, simply 'has (already) accomplished/done...'; and there is nothing in the S/T to justify 'une partie' du travail, which surely leaves the implication 'but intends to do the rest', not in S/T.
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Cyril Tollari
: overtranslation
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Morocco
A wordsmith at your disposal
Native in: Arabic (Variant: Standard-Arabian (MSA)) , French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: French to Arabic, English to Arabic, Arabic to French, and 6 more.
A fait un exploit
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François Tardif
: "some work" c'est "du travail".
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Tony M
: 'exploit" in itself does not correspond with the meaning or tone of the S/T
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United States
Medical,Technical, and Legal
Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, French to English
Finir quelques travaux
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François Tardif
: Est-ce de la traduction automatique?
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Tony M
: To start with, there is no real sense of 'finir' here; and 'volant autour' is total nonsense.
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France
39 years of experience speak for quality
Native in: French
Works in: English to French, German to French
a un peu travaillé
a entrepris un travail sur elle-même à propos du fait de voler
A abordé (le sujet...) avec elle
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Note added at 1 jour 13 heures (2020-08-14 12:33:29 GMT)
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Ou bien " a entamé avec elle un travail sur le vol"
a réalisé certain travaux : à travaillé
'Work' of course in the emotional / psychological sense; I insticntively feel it is better in FR in the pulra, though then again, my second suggestion to use the verb 'travailler' seems to me more idiomatic in FR: « nous avons travaillé ensemble un peu sur son image corporelle »
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Note added at 7 hrs (2020-08-13 06:00:45 GMT)
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Apologies for the typo! Please disregard the ':' in my suggestion, it was meant to be a '/', indicating it is an alternative rendering.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2020-08-13 06:04:47 GMT)
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Oh dear, and further apologies for the subsequent typos:
For 'insticntively', please read 'instinctively'
For 'pulra', please read 'plural'
Need more coffee!!
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Note added at 12 hrs (2020-08-13 11:09:24 GMT)
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No, you cannot infer that they succeeded; forget 'completed', this is a misleading term, as I've explained. The key word here is 'some', which strongly implies that more work remains to be done — they are probably still a long way from 'having succeeded'!!
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But that amounts to over-translation: you are adding an idea that is not in the source text, and cannot be safely inferred from it. There is no notion of 'succeed', and without that, there is no need or justification whatsoever for adding 'semble'; by so doing you change the whole tone of the text.
It might be they have done some work around stealing — but it has not produced positive results; in which case your suggestion would be entirely at odds with the source text; unless, of course, you have further context that you are keeping from us...?
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In that case, it is certainly unsafe to over-translate as you suggest!
However, I feel sure you probably do have extra context that you are simply not telling us: for a start, the purpose and overall tone of the document, who is writing it and who will read it, and any ultimate conclusions it may make.
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Note added at 1 day 14 hrs (2020-08-14 13:34:25 GMT)
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Thanks, that added extra context is most helpful, and was pretty much what I expected; so it is the foster carer who is in the spotlight here...
| I think it means here that they succeded to convince to no longer steal. semble la convaince de ne plus voler ? |
| C'est pour ça j'ai dit ''semble''. Ça veut dire ce n'est pas totalement achevé |
| No further context UnfortunateIy |
| This is a foster care assessment |
France
Subtitles, Professional Baker
Native in: French (Variants: Canadian, Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, French, French to English
a réussi à lui inculquer quelque leçon sur le vol
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si on veut enlever la notion de réussir qui fait débat, on peut simplement dire qu'elle lui a enseigné quelques notions sur le vol.
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Tony M
: Once again, over-translation: there is nothing in the S/T give to tell us if this work was successful... or not / I'm familiar with the nuances of meaning of 'to complete' in EN; the key issue here is really 'some', clearly inferring more needs to be done
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That's why I began by 'Je suppose' but yes, 'completed' gives a hint in that way, even if it's not 100% sure. Yes, and my answer clearly states that more needs to be done 'quelque leçon' means exactly that...you could also say 'quelques notions', same
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