Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Armenerziehungsanstalt
English translation:
poor school
Added to glossary by
philgoddard
Nov 14, 2012 17:35
11 yrs ago
German term
James Taylor (X)
Armenerziehungsanstalt
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History
Swiss history
This is from a text for tourists about an old Swiss farmhouse:
[Der Bauernhof] wurde als Stadthof erbaut und diente Mitte 19. Jahrhundert als Armenerziehungsanstalt.
The most plausible possibility unearthed by my Internet research so far is "school for poor children" - any better suggestions would be warmly welcomed!
[Der Bauernhof] wurde als Stadthof erbaut und diente Mitte 19. Jahrhundert als Armenerziehungsanstalt.
The most plausible possibility unearthed by my Internet research so far is "school for poor children" - any better suggestions would be warmly welcomed!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +7 | poor school |
philgoddard
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| 3 | school for the destitute |
Carl Stoll
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| 3 -1 | reformatory for the poor |
Michael Martin, MA
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References
| Alternative to "poor school" |
Kate Collyer
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Change log
Nov 23, 2012 15:22: philgoddard Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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philgoddard
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poor school
Or school for poor children.
Erziehung is education, Anstalt is institution.
Most of the hits for this word relate to the Armenerziehungsanstalt at Hofwyl, which may even be the one your text is about. This is from Britannica:
"In 1799 Fellenberg purchased an estate in Hofwyl, where he founded a self-supporting agricultural school for poor children that combined manual training with agricultural and academic instruction."
Erziehung is education, Anstalt is institution.
Most of the hits for this word relate to the Armenerziehungsanstalt at Hofwyl, which may even be the one your text is about. This is from Britannica:
"In 1799 Fellenberg purchased an estate in Hofwyl, where he founded a self-supporting agricultural school for poor children that combined manual training with agricultural and academic instruction."
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Comment: "Many thanks for this! :-)"
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Michael Martin, MA
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reformatory for the poor
might work here..
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Note added at 2 Stunden (2012-11-14 20:02:39 GMT)
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Phil's right. Perhaps, "reform school for the poor" would be more appropriate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_school
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Note added at 2 Stunden (2012-11-14 20:02:39 GMT)
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Phil's right. Perhaps, "reform school for the poor" would be more appropriate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_school
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Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: I found this definition too, at leo.org, but I think it's wrong. A reformatory was for young people who'd committed criminal offences.
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Valid point, thanks!
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Lancashireman
: Leave out the 'reform' element and your solution might work here.
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Thanks, Andrew.
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Kate Collyer
: Reform school is no better, unfortunately. There is no concept of punishment/reform in the ST, it is purely a school for those who are too poor to afford any other education.
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Thanks for that insight, Kate.
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school for the destitute
or some other synonym of "poor"
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Kate Collyer
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elegant, eloquent, accurate translation
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Alternative to "poor school"
This is another term used in the UK during the 19th century. It is less ambiguous, if that is the only objection to the former.
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