Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Rumpfform

English translation:

rudimentary form

Added to glossary by mill2
Mar 19, 2015 21:26
9 yrs ago
German term

Rumpfform

German to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. social theory
I'm translating a book of social theory. No need to parse the context in detail, the point is the metaphorical use of Rumpfform, which is used here to mean the generally shared portion of a theory even if some of its aspects are discarded. I'm considering skeletal form but am not sure. Or maybe there's no way to save the bodily metaphor and I just have to use portion?

Obwohl nicht alle verstehenden Sozialwissenschaften das im emanzipatorischen Erkenntnisinteresse angelegte emphatische Modell gesellschaftlichen Lernens teilen, so kennzeichnen andere Merkmale des emanzipatorischen Erkenntnisinteresses doch einen generellen Zug der verstehenden Sozialwissenschaften. Die allgemein geteilte *Rumpfform* des emanzipatorischen Erkenntnisinteresses formuliert – zumeist implizit – eine Kritik an kategorisierenden Festlegungen von Menschen, die diese zu Agenten von kulturellen Normen machen.

Discussion

Horst Huber (X) Mar 20, 2015:
Also, one might remember that "emanzipatorisches Erkenntnisinteresse" denotes the intellectual impetus for emancipatory insight, which indeed has taken many forms and the "Rumpfform" would be less than "form" or concept, but a common impulse the articulated forms would share?
Horst Huber (X) Mar 20, 2015:
I am wondering wether the "Rumpf-"Metaphor was not brought into German from the "Rump Parliament" of 1648. COD speaks of "small or contemptible remnant of a parliament or similar body", which might suggest avoiding the word?
Ramey Rieger (X) Mar 20, 2015:
Hi Mill2! There is also the option of leaving it out: The most commonly accepted/applied/perceived form of emancipatory....

Proposed translations

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rudimental form

Rudimental (in the sense of fundamental or basic) form seems to fit the context better than either skeletal or rump form.

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"Rudimental" also saves the body metaphor. One (fairly ancient) example:
https://books.google.com/books?id=AYYsAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA475&lpg=...
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : I think you mean rudimentary.
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neutral Steffen Walter : with Phil
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rump form

The literal translation seems to me to work perfectly well here. And Google provides examples of the use of the term, e.g.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1571052666
John Carey, ‎William V. Dunlap, ‎Robert John Pritchard - 2006 - ‎Law
With the overthrow of the Taliban administration and the restoration of the Northern Alliance, even in a rump form, to some form of authority in the country...


https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1409480305
Adam R. Seipp - 2013 - ‎History
It was a truce that survived military defeat and a change of government in 1916 and one that would survive, albeit in rump form, the end of the war.
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : This sounds a bit odd to me.
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nevertheless, "remnant" is one of the meaning of "rump" and it seems to me to be what the author is intending
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simplistic form

Equivalent to "Grob vereinfacht"
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basic content/essential body

It all comes down to how you translate the rest.
Peer comment(s):

agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator) : with "basic content" ... or even "shared content"
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hi Harald, actually the 'rump' bit could be left out. See discussion box. What do you think?
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core concept

just an idea
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framework

Linguee translates "Rumpfform" as fuselage or hull, so "framework" might work here.
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