Jul 9, 2018 14:32
5 yrs ago
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French term

main de

French to English Art/Literary Printing & Publishing
Hello,

I am baffled by this expression "main de 1,5" in the following, otherwise self-explanatory description of a "beau livre" :

Impression quadri pages intérieures sur papier Munken Print White 150g, main de 1,5

Can anyone help?

Many thanks in advance.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 bulk of

Discussion

Idna (asker) Jul 11, 2018:
Yes, same thing for me, I found the same link using Google. Thanks.
Charles Davis Jul 9, 2018:
Previous question I found nothing in the glossary for this using the site search, but an entry did come up when I tried a Google search:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/paper_paper_man...

However, the wrong answer was chosen. Bourth, as usual, got it right with "bulk"; but "hand", the "feel" of the paper, is not what this means.

Proposed translations

+2
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bulk of

Thickness, also known as caliper, speaks for itself. "Main" or bulk is the ratio of thickness to weight (grammage).

"PAPET. Main (d'un papier). Valeur arithmétique exprimant le bouffant et qui est le quotient de l'épaisseur d'une feuille de ce papier exprimée en millièmes de mm. par le grammage"
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/main

"Bulk is a measurement of paper that often determines what type of printers can handle it. Bulk is used to measure the ratio of paper thickness to its weight in cubic centimeters per gram. The formula for bulk is thickness (mm) x basis weight (g/m^2) x 1000. Basis weight is another property of paper you must know to determine bulk. Basis weight is also known as "grammage" and measures the weight of paper per unit area, expressed in grams per square meter."
https://sciencing.com/determine-paper-bulk-6636801.html

"Because of the higher bulk of 1.5 and its stiffness, Amber Volume allows you to choose a lower grammage and save money due to a reduced total weight."
http://www.arcticpaper.com/en/Amber-calculator/

"main f. IMPRIM. papier bulk"
https://books.google.es/books?id=_9oqBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA425&lpg=P...

"Bulk
Bulk expresses the specific volume of a material. Bulk is the inverse of density.
bulk = 1 / density = (cm²/g)
In the paper trade bulk is a more commonly used measure than density to indicating the "compactness" of paper. Bulk can be calculated by dividing the thickness of a sheet by its basis weight. In some connections, bulk is used to express the thickness of paper or board according to the following equation:
bulk x basis weight = thickness

For example:
Bulk...........Basis weight...............Thickness
1.3..............100 gsm.................130 microns
1.6...............80 gsm..................130 microns

This is done particularly when choosing bookprinting paper and packaging."
http://www.yes-paper.com/index.php?yespaper=yespaper-paper-g...
Peer comment(s):

agree Tony M : This has come up before and ought to be in the glossary already. I think we do also use the term 'hand' in EN, though I suspect it may now be archaic.
1 hr
Thanks, Tony! I'm afraid I didn't think to check the glossary. Of course, there are an awful lot of entries for "main", as both "hand" and "principal"! // It has come up before, but the glossary entry is wrong. See discussion.
agree Jennifer Levey
2 hrs
Thanks, Robin!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Charles, and to all the others for your confirmation. "

Reference comments

31 mins
Reference:

Main

« Main d'un papier: Le papier peut être souple (il se plie) ou rigide (comme le carton). On peut mesurer le degré de souplesse ou de rigidité du papier grâce à un rapport entre l'épaisseur de la feuille et son grammage. Par exemple, une feuille dont l'épaisseur est de 300 micromètres et qui pèse 200 g/m2 a une "main" de 1,5. C'est un paramètre important pour l'imprimeur qui - par un choix intelligent de papiers de mains différents - peut obtenir des épaisseurs similaires pour des ouvrages qui ont un nombre différent de pages. »
(http://www.editoprint.com/lexique-imprimeur.html)
Note from asker:
Thank you Roy, this definitely put me on the right track. Very helpful.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Daryo
10 hrs
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